Sunday, December 23, 2007

Reality of fardeen

Fardeen the hypocrite


i will start with fardeen well know post for which no action was taken. he has given full free hand in islam community to abuse islam in general and Sahaba (RA) in particular.

Click here to see Fardeen post who is nowadays using janasheen id for his profile






Dec 8

Janasheen

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He replied: 'When you see women seated on saddles (i.e. riding horses and in this age, driving cars); when singing girls are to be found in profusion

Well, what are the brackets for?! Isn't this fabrication of hadith? (Adding words in brackets?)

Also, this hadith is again by Hazrat Abu Hurairah who is known for giving Anti-women ahadith.

Also, what about Hazrat Ayesha riding horses and many a times racing with the Prophet(saw) as mentioned in some hadiths.



just take a look at fardeen statement:

1 - declaring Hazrat Abu Huraira (RA) as anti women nauzubillah
2 - declaring hadiths as anti women nauzubillah


the muslim moderators of islam community supported him fully for his statement. this is what people of the world learn from these bunch of muslims that our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم gave some anti women hadiths nauzubillah


after all this now fardeen is supporting usman for the blasphemy.


lets see more from fardeen:



Dec 12

Janasheen

2. Freedom to practise YOUR VERSION OF ISLAM

I believe that since this is an ISLAM community, every sect should have the premission to believe and express what they believe.

If a person believes that Hz Abu Huraira was NOT a reliable person, he/she should be free to express that, If It is a rational and backed-up point!

Else, kindly rename the community and make all the rules Sunni-Pro. That would be more fitting.

In the end, howmuch ever you deny the fact, It does come down to Shia-Sunni equality in the community.


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Dec 13

Janasheen

Dr.Kizar

JazakAllah for the words full of wisdom. It is true that just one word of mine was strteched like a chewing gum to unimaginable length.

The hadith in question was about women not being allowed to ride horses. I made an observation that Hazrat Ayesha used to race with the Prophet(saw). And also, that a lot of Anti-women ahadith do come from Hz Abu Huraira.

This one sentence was stretched out of proportion.

Also, I havent seena ANY member coming and making threads and Abusing Companions. This is a non-issue actually.



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Dec 14

Janasheen

Continuing from where Usman left....

In the same way, praising all the companions-

Scholars have said that they were 114,000 in number [as stated by Abu Zur'ah, the teacher of Imam Muslim, and recorded by as-Suyootee].

http://www.orkut.com/CommMsgs.aspx?cmm=3126&tid=2571704351853962683&start=1

If that is the case, then praising all the companions should NOT be ALLOWED in the community because It hurts the feelings of many Muslims, since NOT all Muslims believe that these 114,000 people were righteous and like the shining stars in the sky and like the gold on the mount Uhud!

Why use the Sunni Rule book to Judge the Shian-e-Ali!??!?!???



Dec 22 (1 day ago)

Janasheen

Sami

So all the members are requested to stay away from using any disrespectful words for sacred personalities, as well as for each other.

I would like to ask whether the word 'DISRESPECTFUL' also includes 'Factual' disrespect?

For example: If one criticises 'Saint' Paul on factual basis, It would be disrespect and even possibly abuse or blasphemy from the point of view of Christians.
But for Muslims that would be the Qur'anic truth as the Qur'an says trinity does not exist!

So, would this rule apply If a person posts certain things from his/her school of thought, with the respective back-up proofs?


Dec 22 (1 day ago)

Janasheen

Scholars have said that they were 114,000 in number [as stated by Abu Zur'ah, the teacher of Imam Muslim, and recorded by as-Suyootee].

http://www.orkut.com/CommMsgs.aspx?cmm=3126&tid=2571704351853962683&start=1

What If a member believes that all 1,14,000 alleged companions were NOT RIGHTEOUS?

What if the member DOES NOT follow the Sunni definition of a COMPANION?

These are questions which are of critical importance. I expect sincere answers.



Nov 5

Janasheen

Shias don't believe that all companions were righteous and that they were like 'stars'.

That is Sunni belief.

Let each one believe what they want to.

A Shia can't be forced to consider all companions as 'stars', simply because thats not part of his/her belief system :)

Another method that can be applied is: Ban all the Shias from Islam community.



Nov 6

Janasheen

Ajaz

You want Shias to behave in a particular manner. That is Bigotry.

Let the Shias be themselves.

If you'll can't digest the criticism of Sahabas, then BAN all Shias from the community and change the name of the community to 'Salafi-Sunni Islam Community'


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Nov 5

Janasheen

Usman

You are free to make out what you want to from the Ahadith.

I did not give any Value judgements.

I did not say that Abu Huraira is the Saint Paul of Islam, who became a Muslim barely 2-3 years before the Prophet(saw) bid farewell to this world. I did not even say that all Anti-woman ahadith are strangely attributed to Abu Huraira.


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Nov 5

Janasheen

PROBLEM

The problem is that Saifi cannot hear criticism about the man called Abu Huraira because he hears his name mnay a times in the masjid (probably) with Hazrat and R.A attached to it.

So, any criticism will obviously have violent reactions. It is normal to have such reactions, but It is not normal to stretch them like Wrigley's Chewing Gum.

These are my observations.


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This is fardeen always ready to disrespect Sahaba (RA)


take a look at fardeen stand over usman issue:




Dec 22 (1 day ago)

Janasheen

Saifi

Don't mind, but thats a RIDICULOUS decision!!

One should be thankful to Usman that he gave a brilliant reply as to why Ayesha(ra) did not conceive!


If one is NOT to believe Usman's argument (that Its not always possible to conceive even after consummation), one would be stuck with the only reason remaining for Ayesha(ra) not being able to conceive: That she had not reached puberty before marrying the Prophet(saw) and that IS BLASPHEMY!!

Anyway, the above mentioned reason also doesn't hold weight since the Proiphet(saw) and Aisha(ra) stayed together for 10 years, until which she would have conceived!



this is the reality of fardeen hypocrite.


Reality of Fardeen who disrespected Sahaba (RA) and others including usman and blour supported him





this is not it. he have done disrespect again. take a look at this screen shot





now take a look at the comments of bolour what she said about this blasphemy:




bolour declared this blasphemy as freedom of speech nauzubillah


just take a look how usman gustakh supporting fardeen over this blasphemy



how a muslim can accept this blasphemy:

1 - declaring Sahaba (RA) as unreliable nauzubillah
2 - declaring hadiths as antiwomen nauzubillah same like kuffars